Comments on: Ripping Friends Controversy

By: Parody: Whack Comics No. 2

Parody: Whack Comics No. 2 — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:58:29 +0000

[...] week or two ago, I was taking part in a discussion on the Cold Hard Flash blog about ripping off other artists’ work. One of the people discussing the subject brought up the concept of parody, but seemed to have no [...]

By: Aaron Simpson

Aaron Simpson — Tue, 22 May 2007 14:33:00 +0000

If this is "spirited," I'd hate to see "angry."

I just spotted a quote on animated-news.com. Eric Idle, the Monty Python vet, is angry at the Shrek 3 producers over what he sees as joke theft. His response to claims that this might be 'homage' was this: "Do you think if I stole your wallet that’d be an homage to your money?"

By: JoeyCee

JoeyCee — Fri, 04 May 2007 01:51:00 +0000

Either way it’s nice to see spirited debate over animation…my 2cents…inspired by surely…ripping off nope

By: Heather

Heather — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:58:00 +0000

Mr. Worth: I am an industry professional, in that I make my living in the entertainment industry. Just because I don’t want to post my email address doesn’t mean I’m hiding. It means I don’t want to be bothered by you or people like you. For full disclosure, I know Bob Cesca and am a fan of his work, though I have never had the opportunity to actually work with him. But I know him as a pro and a man of ethics. Your argument, as many others have pointed out, is absurd.

By: Floyd Bishop

Floyd Bishop — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 05:11:00 +0000

Stephen, your posts are getting ridiculous now. It’s not like Bob and crew traced John K’s stuff. Let John fight his own battles. He’s a big boy, and hasn’t mentioned this piece anywhere online (that I could find). Bob doesn’t owe you or anyone else an apology. If anything, this should be between Bob and John. Quit the personal attacks and move on with things. It’s nice to be important, but it’s important to be nice.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 03:39:00 +0000

Sorry Stephen, I see it was finally posted.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 03:35:00 +0000

I posted the following comments to CHF earlier today. I also tried to post them to "Cartoon Brew" twice, but they will NOT post it. It's obvious that Stephen and Amid are afraid it will influence the "Brew" readers. It's ashame they feel they have to silence people to win their arguments.

I’ve done some research on the studio that created this short, Camp Chaos. Here’s what I’ve found…

It seems like they’ve been around on the internet for a very long time. The first real info I found on them was a spoof they did called “Napster Bad,” which is a short that pokes fun at the musical group “Metallica.” They also had an animated sketch comedy show which aired on VH1 called “VH1-Illustrated”, which basically makes fun of celebrities and pop culture. In the show they parody different drawing styles like, Hanna-Barbera, Anime, SpongeBob, etc. (This is no different than shows like Comedy Centrals “Drawn Together” or SNL’s “Ambiguously Gay Duo.”)

They do some very good Flash work and it seems that they have built their reputation on doing spoofs and parodies.

I truly believe this was supposed to be a spoof and that they had no ill intentions. Ren and Stimpy first aired something like 20 years ago and the Spumco style is now considered a classic. That opens it up to both inspire and be spoofed and copied by other artists.

Stephen, I think you are just too close to John K to truly be objective. There is no plagiarism or copyright infringement going on here. If their were, you can bet John would have called his lawyer the first time he saw this short and a “cease and desist” order would have been issued.

Lets face it…You know you’ve made it BIG when somebody spoofs you!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 03:21:00 +0000

As for the "industry professionals" who post anonymously or under unlinked first names, I really couldn't care less what you say about my reputation.

You obviously care a great deal otherwise you wouldn't keep trying to justify your bias opinion.

By: chunkymonkey

chunkymonkey — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 02:24:00 +0000

If you’re waiting for Bob to install CFLs, I think he’s on it, broseph.

By: Stephen Worth

Stephen Worth — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 01:12:00 +0000

The situation here is very clear. There weren't "influences" involved. This was an unattributed, unlicensed ripoff. It's no different than using Bugs Bunny or Donald Duck in an ad without the permission of Warner Bros or Disney. The only difference is that it's an independent artist ripping off another independent artist, not a major studio.

The ball is in Bob's court. Let's see what he has to say.

As for the "industry professionals" who post anonymously or under unlinked first names, I really couldn't care less what you say about my reputation. You're either afraid or ashamed to put your name behind what you say. I'm using my own name and my own account, and anyone interested can click through to see who I am. I'm proud of my career and the things I've accomplished.

I know Bob Cesca is a professional. He's got the opportunity here to act like one. He can end this anytime he wants.

See ya
Steve