Comments on: George’s Second Term http://coldhardflash.com/2007/06/georges-second-term.html Flash Animation Community - Featuing a Blog, Videos and Links Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:20:25 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://coldhardflash.com/2007/06/georges-second-term.html/comment-page-1#comment-2803 Anonymous Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:17:00 +0000 http://coldhardflash.com/2007/06/georges-second-term.html#comment-2803 Bah! Those new character designs have none of the charm of the old George. Bah! Those new character designs have none of the charm of the old George.

]]> By: Corey http://coldhardflash.com/2007/06/georges-second-term.html/comment-page-1#comment-2801 Corey Sat, 23 Jun 2007 06:13:00 +0000 http://coldhardflash.com/2007/06/georges-second-term.html#comment-2801 The new George is great. It's one of a handfull of contemporary kids shows that I've actually laughed out loud at. <br/><br/>Congrats to everyone at Studio B for their great work on it! The new George is great. It’s one of a handfull of contemporary kids shows that I’ve actually laughed out loud at.

Congrats to everyone at Studio B for their great work on it!

]]> By: Chris Battle http://coldhardflash.com/2007/06/georges-second-term.html/comment-page-1#comment-2799 Chris Battle Fri, 22 Jun 2007 20:17:00 +0000 http://coldhardflash.com/2007/06/georges-second-term.html#comment-2799 I think most of those posts were more upset over the new designs/characterizations than the show being done in Flash.<br/><br/>I wouldn't mind a Flash animated Jay Ward style George... I think most of those posts were more upset over the new designs/characterizations than the show being done in Flash.

I wouldn’t mind a Flash animated Jay Ward style George…

]]> By: Bob Harper http://coldhardflash.com/2007/06/georges-second-term.html/comment-page-1#comment-2798 Bob Harper Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:57:00 +0000 http://coldhardflash.com/2007/06/georges-second-term.html#comment-2798 Well we need to do things in our productions like having mouth charts pop on and off, discolored arms, turntable BGs, cells that hold too long and animate on 4's and then maybe we can compete with the awesomeness of early TV animation.<br/><br/>Personally I love the ugly old school Jay Ward type of animation. The bad animation was part of what was funny about it. But it isn't superior animation by far.<br/><br/>The only people that hate flash animation are animators. I haven't run into a kid that didn't like a show because it was flash or an adult "civilian" that knows that the Simpsons, Southpark and Lil Bush are all produced differently.<br/><br/>We just need to keep doing what we're doing and to hell with all the haters. Well we need to do things in our productions like having mouth charts pop on and off, discolored arms, turntable BGs, cells that hold too long and animate on 4’s and then maybe we can compete with the awesomeness of early TV animation.

Personally I love the ugly old school Jay Ward type of animation. The bad animation was part of what was funny about it. But it isn’t superior animation by far.

The only people that hate flash animation are animators. I haven’t run into a kid that didn’t like a show because it was flash or an adult “civilian” that knows that the Simpsons, Southpark and Lil Bush are all produced differently.

We just need to keep doing what we’re doing and to hell with all the haters.

]]> By: Gary Doodles http://coldhardflash.com/2007/06/georges-second-term.html/comment-page-1#comment-2796 Gary Doodles Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:46:00 +0000 http://coldhardflash.com/2007/06/georges-second-term.html#comment-2796 Flash is brilliant, maybe one day the rest of the world will realize that too. Great post Aaron! Flash is brilliant, maybe one day the rest of the world will realize that too. Great post Aaron!

]]> By: Justin Weg http://coldhardflash.com/2007/06/georges-second-term.html/comment-page-1#comment-2795 Justin Weg Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:38:00 +0000 http://coldhardflash.com/2007/06/georges-second-term.html#comment-2795 Well...I'm looking forward to this show. Glad to see my recommendation to post it made the page. Thanks Aaron! Well…I’m looking forward to this show. Glad to see my recommendation to post it made the page. Thanks Aaron!

]]> By: Crystal http://coldhardflash.com/2007/06/georges-second-term.html/comment-page-1#comment-2794 Crystal Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:19:00 +0000 http://coldhardflash.com/2007/06/georges-second-term.html#comment-2794 I am not sure if the disdain for this show is really coming from the use of Flash as much as taking a classic cartoon, that people love and turning it into something different that what it was. The new trend of taking old classics and turning them into new and hip properites is annoying. Its like saying I hate 3d cause I think the new Underdog movie looks horrible, I think it looks horrible cause thats not Underdog. <br/>I have been working in flash for years now and I love it. It keeps work here (even though this show is made in Canada) and the only limitations of it are the ones we put on it ourselves. Flash can look really good given the effort. But I am also an animation purist too, I gotta admit I am not excitied about this show, I like the old George, and I am tired of seeing old shows get rehashed into new ones cause the studios are too lazy and cheap to develop new cartoons.<br/>How about we stop coasting off things like George of the Jungle, Gerald McBoing Boing, Speed Racer, etc and make some new classics? I am not sure if the disdain for this show is really coming from the use of Flash as much as taking a classic cartoon, that people love and turning it into something different that what it was. The new trend of taking old classics and turning them into new and hip properites is annoying. Its like saying I hate 3d cause I think the new Underdog movie looks horrible, I think it looks horrible cause thats not Underdog.
I have been working in flash for years now and I love it. It keeps work here (even though this show is made in Canada) and the only limitations of it are the ones we put on it ourselves. Flash can look really good given the effort. But I am also an animation purist too, I gotta admit I am not excitied about this show, I like the old George, and I am tired of seeing old shows get rehashed into new ones cause the studios are too lazy and cheap to develop new cartoons.
How about we stop coasting off things like George of the Jungle, Gerald McBoing Boing, Speed Racer, etc and make some new classics?

]]> By: Ryan Simmons http://coldhardflash.com/2007/06/georges-second-term.html/comment-page-1#comment-2793 Ryan Simmons Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:46:00 +0000 http://coldhardflash.com/2007/06/georges-second-term.html#comment-2793 I've noticed that the Brew readers just don't like Flash in general. They are animation purists or so they would like to think. Reading some of their comments you can see that a lot of them don't understand the Flash pipeline and how it is cost effective.<br/>I also think that a lot of the disgust over there comes from emotional attachment to the original series. Any changes would obviously not be welcome. The funny thing is, is that even if you used the exact same character designs and backgrounds as the original show, they would still be dissatisfied and complain that the new series has no new creativity or innovation and is clearly just re-using the old designs to churn out more show to earn more money. I’ve noticed that the Brew readers just don’t like Flash in general. They are animation purists or so they would like to think. Reading some of their comments you can see that a lot of them don’t understand the Flash pipeline and how it is cost effective.
I also think that a lot of the disgust over there comes from emotional attachment to the original series. Any changes would obviously not be welcome. The funny thing is, is that even if you used the exact same character designs and backgrounds as the original show, they would still be dissatisfied and complain that the new series has no new creativity or innovation and is clearly just re-using the old designs to churn out more show to earn more money.

]]> By: Bentos http://coldhardflash.com/2007/06/georges-second-term.html/comment-page-1#comment-2791 Bentos Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:20:00 +0000 http://coldhardflash.com/2007/06/georges-second-term.html#comment-2791 I was trying to define what 'Conservative' meant to me to somebody the other day. What I said was that there are some people out there who see change and just automatically say 'No' and constantly hark back to some supposed Golden Age.<br/><br/>There are some really conservative people hanging around that site. I was trying to define what ‘Conservative’ meant to me to somebody the other day. What I said was that there are some people out there who see change and just automatically say ‘No’ and constantly hark back to some supposed Golden Age.

There are some really conservative people hanging around that site.

]]> By: Bentos http://coldhardflash.com/2007/06/georges-second-term.html/comment-page-1#comment-2790 Bentos Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:56:00 +0000 http://coldhardflash.com/2007/06/georges-second-term.html#comment-2790 Couldn't agree more, feel the Flash Hate!<br/><br/>The dumb thing is that Flash actually lets you make much better animation on a limited budget. You try doing a 'traditionally' animated show on a modern TV budget and it will be 'animated' in some sweatshop in the orient and look aweful. You animate it in Flash and you can hit all the right buttons for entertaining, limited animation, plus it's probably animated by someone in the same building as the guys who wrote it and did the storyboard.<br/><br/>Seems like a bit of a no-brainer to me.<br/><br/>These guys are living in a fantasy world. Couldn’t agree more, feel the Flash Hate!

The dumb thing is that Flash actually lets you make much better animation on a limited budget. You try doing a ‘traditionally’ animated show on a modern TV budget and it will be ‘animated’ in some sweatshop in the orient and look aweful. You animate it in Flash and you can hit all the right buttons for entertaining, limited animation, plus it’s probably animated by someone in the same building as the guys who wrote it and did the storyboard.

Seems like a bit of a no-brainer to me.

These guys are living in a fantasy world.

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