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		<title>By: Aaron Simpson</title>
		<link>http://coldhardflash.com/2007/07/comcast-and-john-k-got-game.html/comment-page-1#comment-2907</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That video on the Comcast website is actually streamed as an FLV - it&#039;s just a really good render, so it looks like a vector version.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would anyone animate this kinda stuff in flash? It&#039;s lot&#039;s of work and the result doesn&#039;t look alive but more like just a few pictures. Why wouldn&#039;t you just use the flv playback component if you are not putting any interactivity in there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would anyone animate this kinda stuff in flash? It&#8217;s lot&#8217;s of work and the result doesn&#8217;t look alive but more like just a few pictures. Why wouldn&#8217;t you just use the flv playback component if you are not putting any interactivity in there?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://coldhardflash.com/2007/07/comcast-and-john-k-got-game.html/comment-page-1#comment-2899</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&quot;the drawings look awesome and john &amp; co. can draw circles around 99% of cartoonists. &quot;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Agreed. The man is still a fearsome talent and he gets good work out of his crew, given the time constraints. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;&quot;but you know, it&#039;s what you do with those drawings that counts, and if your going to write an instructional blog in lieu of actually animating, and if you&#039;re going to publicly tear down other working animators to satisfy your own ego, then you know....when you DO actually produce something, it better be worth all the hype.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Agree with this , too.   It&#039;s not like this thing is the worst  or the best animated web ad ever done ... it&#039;s &quot;ok&quot; , just average.  If it didn&#039;t have JOHN K&#039;s name attached to it I doubt we&#039;d even be discussing it .&lt;br/&gt;This and the Raketu spots are sort of  blah , animation-wise .  Nice designs , yes , but the animation is mostly limited and bland.  Someone else needs to go back and read Preston Blair again, too.   &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(could I do better with a one month animation schedule start-to-finish ?  No.  But some of the other &quot;modern day cartoonists&quot; that John constantly slams on his blog have tight deadlines which effect the quality of their work too.  What&#039;s weird is to read the sycophants on his blog  rave about how this Comcast thing and  the Raketu pieces are  so great and groundbreaking , but they just aren&#039;t...  C&#039;mon people , get a clue.  )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>&#8220;the drawings look awesome and john &#038; co. can draw circles around 99% of cartoonists. &#8220;</b></p>
<p>Agreed. The man is still a fearsome talent and he gets good work out of his crew, given the time constraints. </p>
<p><b>&#8220;but you know, it&#8217;s what you do with those drawings that counts, and if your going to write an instructional blog in lieu of actually animating, and if you&#8217;re going to publicly tear down other working animators to satisfy your own ego, then you know&#8230;.when you DO actually produce something, it better be worth all the hype.</b></p>
<p>Agree with this , too.   It&#8217;s not like this thing is the worst  or the best animated web ad ever done &#8230; it&#8217;s &#8220;ok&#8221; , just average.  If it didn&#8217;t have JOHN K&#8217;s name attached to it I doubt we&#8217;d even be discussing it .<br />This and the Raketu spots are sort of  blah , animation-wise .  Nice designs , yes , but the animation is mostly limited and bland.  Someone else needs to go back and read Preston Blair again, too.   </p>
<p>(could I do better with a one month animation schedule start-to-finish ?  No.  But some of the other &#8220;modern day cartoonists&#8221; that John constantly slams on his blog have tight deadlines which effect the quality of their work too.  What&#8217;s weird is to read the sycophants on his blog  rave about how this Comcast thing and  the Raketu pieces are  so great and groundbreaking , but they just aren&#8217;t&#8230;  C&#8217;mon people , get a clue.  )</p>
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		<title>By: will b</title>
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		<dc:creator>will b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in response to karma....&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;i disagree with &#039;anonymous&#039; AND i disagree with you...... this comcast thing didn&#039;t really break any rules that hadn&#039;t already been broken by far more prolific flash animators.  sure john and ashkar came up with some cool stuff with flash 2 back in the day, but it appears that john&#039;s advancements with flash work stopped there while many others blew right on by. so there really wasn&#039;t any envelope pushing here, both in content or execution.  but because it&#039;s john, everyone claims that it&#039;s waaay innovative.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;that being the case, the drawings look awesome and john &amp; co. can draw circles around 99% of cartoonists.  but you know, it&#039;s what you do with those drawings that counts, and if your going to write an instructional blog in lieu of actually animating, and if you&#039;re going to publicly tear down other working animators to satisfy your own ego, then you know....when you DO actually produce something, it better be worth all the hype.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Will</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in response to karma&#8230;.</p>
<p>i disagree with &#8216;anonymous&#8217; AND i disagree with you&#8230;&#8230; this comcast thing didn&#8217;t really break any rules that hadn&#8217;t already been broken by far more prolific flash animators.  sure john and ashkar came up with some cool stuff with flash 2 back in the day, but it appears that john&#8217;s advancements with flash work stopped there while many others blew right on by. so there really wasn&#8217;t any envelope pushing here, both in content or execution.  but because it&#8217;s john, everyone claims that it&#8217;s waaay innovative.</p>
<p>that being the case, the drawings look awesome and john &#038; co. can draw circles around 99% of cartoonists.  but you know, it&#8217;s what you do with those drawings that counts, and if your going to write an instructional blog in lieu of actually animating, and if you&#8217;re going to publicly tear down other working animators to satisfy your own ego, then you know&#8230;.when you DO actually produce something, it better be worth all the hype.</p>
<p>Will</p>
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		<title>By: Karma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think John&#039;s thinks he&#039;s pushing the envelope by breaking all kinds of rules. In reality he&#039;s gone so far out there, that there&#039;s nobody out there with him.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Pretty funny that there&#039;s an incredible number of people that would disagree with that. Then again, it&#039;s pretty easy to disagree with some worthless, subjective, opinion hastily coughed up without a good reason and just looking to be critical on someone you apparently just don&#039;t like to begin with. The mark of the true hypocrite.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;No, Ryan is right... it really is bad animation.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yeah. I suppose that&#039;s why it ends up looking about 10 times more fluid than nearly all flash animation using a lot of tricks that apparently even some of the &quot;best&quot; flash animators dosn&#039;t even have use for, apparently. Considering that Flash isn&#039;t even John&#039;s preferred medium, I think that says a hell of a lot. More than your post did, anyway.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;John is knowledgeable about animation, but it has never translated into his work.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Whoops. I guess that&#039;s why he was able to get Rough Draft Korea to have much better quality than their work on poor cash-in&#039;s for 80&#039;s Video games. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I guess if you want to just pretend like that never happened and make yourself believe that you have some kind of a point, you can. Although you don&#039;t really look very smart for it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;He always comes up with an excuse as to why his animation is intentionally crappy or handicapped by the powers that be.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Nope, sorry. Don&#039;t think he&#039;s ever offered an excuse of that, more than he&#039;s been just as critical of his own work on commentary. Again, thanks for making up a point that dosn&#039;t exist in order to hide the fact that you&#039;re ignoring a better one. You&#039;re so intelligent. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So, what&#039;s your excuse for the assumption based on ignorance that you don&#039;t know? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;I guess it is easier for him to just be hyper-critical of other people.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Or for you to be even more critical of someone with a hell of a lot more experience in the field then you&#039;ll ever have, from the sound of it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I hate people who have their own ignorant biased, hatred, and form some kind of negative opinion out of that rather than knowledge of any kind. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;THose kinds of people are failures. People that fail to make a point, or to prove that they know what they are talking about.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You know, versus someone who is able to back up their opinion with experience and knowledge of the field. Kinda like John K has.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Funny thing, that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think John&#8217;s thinks he&#8217;s pushing the envelope by breaking all kinds of rules. In reality he&#8217;s gone so far out there, that there&#8217;s nobody out there with him.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pretty funny that there&#8217;s an incredible number of people that would disagree with that. Then again, it&#8217;s pretty easy to disagree with some worthless, subjective, opinion hastily coughed up without a good reason and just looking to be critical on someone you apparently just don&#8217;t like to begin with. The mark of the true hypocrite.</p>
<p>&#8220;No, Ryan is right&#8230; it really is bad animation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah. I suppose that&#8217;s why it ends up looking about 10 times more fluid than nearly all flash animation using a lot of tricks that apparently even some of the &#8220;best&#8221; flash animators dosn&#8217;t even have use for, apparently. Considering that Flash isn&#8217;t even John&#8217;s preferred medium, I think that says a hell of a lot. More than your post did, anyway.</p>
<p>&#8220;John is knowledgeable about animation, but it has never translated into his work.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whoops. I guess that&#8217;s why he was able to get Rough Draft Korea to have much better quality than their work on poor cash-in&#8217;s for 80&#8217;s Video games. </p>
<p>I guess if you want to just pretend like that never happened and make yourself believe that you have some kind of a point, you can. Although you don&#8217;t really look very smart for it.</p>
<p>&#8220;He always comes up with an excuse as to why his animation is intentionally crappy or handicapped by the powers that be.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nope, sorry. Don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s ever offered an excuse of that, more than he&#8217;s been just as critical of his own work on commentary. Again, thanks for making up a point that dosn&#8217;t exist in order to hide the fact that you&#8217;re ignoring a better one. You&#8217;re so intelligent. </p>
<p>So, what&#8217;s your excuse for the assumption based on ignorance that you don&#8217;t know? </p>
<p>&#8220;I guess it is easier for him to just be hyper-critical of other people.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or for you to be even more critical of someone with a hell of a lot more experience in the field then you&#8217;ll ever have, from the sound of it.</p>
<p>I hate people who have their own ignorant biased, hatred, and form some kind of negative opinion out of that rather than knowledge of any kind. </p>
<p>THose kinds of people are failures. People that fail to make a point, or to prove that they know what they are talking about.</p>
<p>You know, versus someone who is able to back up their opinion with experience and knowledge of the field. Kinda like John K has.</p>
<p>Funny thing, that.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 05:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Ryan is right... it really is bad animation.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;John is knowledgeable about animation, but it has never translated into his work.  He always comes up with an excuse as to why his animation is intentionally crappy or handicapped by the powers that be.  I guess it is easier for him to just be hyper-critical of other people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Ryan is right&#8230; it really is bad animation.</p>
<p>John is knowledgeable about animation, but it has never translated into his work.  He always comes up with an excuse as to why his animation is intentionally crappy or handicapped by the powers that be.  I guess it is easier for him to just be hyper-critical of other people.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Yick, it was like the cartoon was spinning in a blender at high speed: frentic and nauseating.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyone who&#039;s viewed your reel knows that you can&#039;t understand animation that isn&#039;t completely stiff and robotic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Yick, it was like the cartoon was spinning in a blender at high speed: frentic and nauseating.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Anyone who&#8217;s viewed your reel knows that you can&#8217;t understand animation that isn&#8217;t completely stiff and robotic.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see you do a better one in a month.</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the expressions and mouth positions were pretty bad.  For example, when the baby is crying and then starts to talk, the voice is unintelligible, so you look at the mouth to help you decipher what is being said, but the mouth positions are so exaggerated and extreme, that they are of no use.  I still don&#039;t know what the baby said.  Something about &#039;grandma&#039; that&#039;s all I got out of it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think John&#039;s thinks he&#039;s pushing the envelope by breaking all kinds of rules.  In reality he&#039;s gone so far out there, that there&#039;s nobody out there with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the expressions and mouth positions were pretty bad.  For example, when the baby is crying and then starts to talk, the voice is unintelligible, so you look at the mouth to help you decipher what is being said, but the mouth positions are so exaggerated and extreme, that they are of no use.  I still don&#8217;t know what the baby said.  Something about &#8216;grandma&#8217; that&#8217;s all I got out of it.</p>
<p>I think John&#8217;s thinks he&#8217;s pushing the envelope by breaking all kinds of rules.  In reality he&#8217;s gone so far out there, that there&#8217;s nobody out there with him.</p>
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		<title>By: will b</title>
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		<dc:creator>will b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with ryan.  you know what makes it nauseating?  no sound.  if john had bothered to use sound effects to emphasize the action, our eyes would&#039;ve been drawn to the right place.  instead, the animation just floats in a vacuum.  also, i thought john never repeats expressions?  i saw the same static expressions on those characters throughout.  after all the &#039;i am so great&#039; lectures, i expected more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with ryan.  you know what makes it nauseating?  no sound.  if john had bothered to use sound effects to emphasize the action, our eyes would&#8217;ve been drawn to the right place.  instead, the animation just floats in a vacuum.  also, i thought john never repeats expressions?  i saw the same static expressions on those characters throughout.  after all the &#8216;i am so great&#8217; lectures, i expected more.</p>
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