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	<title>Comments on: Howard Stern and Seth MacFarlane Trash Flash</title>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://coldhardflash.com/2009/05/howard-stern-and-seth-macfarlane-trash-flash.html/comment-page-1#comment-11162</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 05:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;There’s something so sanitized when they do it with Flash. There’s still no machine that can substitute for hand drawn. Some people like it. I have the same visceral reaction that you do. It just feels very cold.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

He must be delusional . 

The Flash animation of  &quot;Up Late with Stewie and Brian&quot; looks exactly as cold and bland as the animation any regular episode of Family Guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;There’s something so sanitized when they do it with Flash. There’s still no machine that can substitute for hand drawn. Some people like it. I have the same visceral reaction that you do. It just feels very cold.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>He must be delusional . </p>
<p>The Flash animation of  &#8220;Up Late with Stewie and Brian&#8221; looks exactly as cold and bland as the animation any regular episode of Family Guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua H. Metz</title>
		<link>http://coldhardflash.com/2009/05/howard-stern-and-seth-macfarlane-trash-flash.html/comment-page-1#comment-10137</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua H. Metz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 19:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave and Gene, I thank you for taking time to tell this thread what really went down.  Without your help, we wouldn&#039;t really know any of that stuff.

I personally think the the Up Late with Stewie and Brian was just as good looking as ANY Family Guy episode I&#039;ve ever seen.  It is not the medium, but the man behind the medium.  Sometimes there is a middle man, but there is usually one mastermind behind it all.  I like to consider myself a mastermind who is still getting behind his medium... LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave and Gene, I thank you for taking time to tell this thread what really went down.  Without your help, we wouldn&#8217;t really know any of that stuff.</p>
<p>I personally think the the Up Late with Stewie and Brian was just as good looking as ANY Family Guy episode I&#8217;ve ever seen.  It is not the medium, but the man behind the medium.  Sometimes there is a middle man, but there is usually one mastermind behind it all.  I like to consider myself a mastermind who is still getting behind his medium&#8230; LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Fowler</title>
		<link>http://coldhardflash.com/2009/05/howard-stern-and-seth-macfarlane-trash-flash.html/comment-page-1#comment-9887</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene Fowler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 00:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re just not saying what they mean correctly is all. We smashed Up Late with stewie and brian out of the fucking park and Dave&#039;s right, we did it in record time. It looked great.

It&#039;s all artist, not the medium that makes the show look great. It&#039;s the creative ideas behind the show, the producer, director, writing team that makes the show. I can&#039;t say I watch alot of Family guy anymore or Listen to Howard as much as I used to. But, they have millions of fans, and millions of revenues. They have a massive audience because they know the path to the audience, or they made one.

Some paths grow over though, that&#039;s where we come in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re just not saying what they mean correctly is all. We smashed Up Late with stewie and brian out of the fucking park and Dave&#8217;s right, we did it in record time. It looked great.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all artist, not the medium that makes the show look great. It&#8217;s the creative ideas behind the show, the producer, director, writing team that makes the show. I can&#8217;t say I watch alot of Family guy anymore or Listen to Howard as much as I used to. But, they have millions of fans, and millions of revenues. They have a massive audience because they know the path to the audience, or they made one.</p>
<p>Some paths grow over though, that&#8217;s where we come in.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Rigley</title>
		<link>http://coldhardflash.com/2009/05/howard-stern-and-seth-macfarlane-trash-flash.html/comment-page-1#comment-9862</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Rigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 12:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a heads up there sebastian. The team that did the anim for the Family Guy Flash dealio was 4 people and we had 1 work week to do it. The rest of the work(backgrounds, character art and rigging, post video and audio) was crammed into roughly a week and a half.

So, if the quality ain&#039;t up to snuff to 1 million dollars and 9 months for a single episode...Well... Sorry. We&#039;ll try harder next time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a heads up there sebastian. The team that did the anim for the Family Guy Flash dealio was 4 people and we had 1 work week to do it. The rest of the work(backgrounds, character art and rigging, post video and audio) was crammed into roughly a week and a half.</p>
<p>So, if the quality ain&#8217;t up to snuff to 1 million dollars and 9 months for a single episode&#8230;Well&#8230; Sorry. We&#8217;ll try harder next time!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 19:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, that&#039;s cute, Flash is &#039;sanitized&#039;. As opposed to Family Guy, which is just &#039;bad&#039;. I&#039;m constantly surprised by the levels of suck that Family Guy can reach. The first two seasons were funny, but ever since then it&#039;s just a long, poorly animated series of 80&#039;s references.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, that&#8217;s cute, Flash is &#8217;sanitized&#8217;. As opposed to Family Guy, which is just &#8216;bad&#8217;. I&#8217;m constantly surprised by the levels of suck that Family Guy can reach. The first two seasons were funny, but ever since then it&#8217;s just a long, poorly animated series of 80&#8217;s references.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Corrao</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Corrao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow this thread has hit a nerve!...Lets break out the pitchforks and torches boys and girls!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow this thread has hit a nerve!&#8230;Lets break out the pitchforks and torches boys and girls!</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan</title>
		<link>http://coldhardflash.com/2009/05/howard-stern-and-seth-macfarlane-trash-flash.html/comment-page-1#comment-9822</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 11:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seth MacFarlane can write? Get out of town. A computer could write better animated comedy than him. It&#039;d actually be a pretty simple algorithm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seth MacFarlane can write? Get out of town. A computer could write better animated comedy than him. It&#8217;d actually be a pretty simple algorithm.</p>
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		<title>By: sebastian</title>
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		<dc:creator>sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 05:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I found interesting: that Flash animated Family Bit piece has worse animation than the regular Family Guy. So our boy Seth did have a point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I found interesting: that Flash animated Family Bit piece has worse animation than the regular Family Guy. So our boy Seth did have a point.</p>
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		<title>By: Fonce Falooda</title>
		<link>http://coldhardflash.com/2009/05/howard-stern-and-seth-macfarlane-trash-flash.html/comment-page-1#comment-9809</link>
		<dc:creator>Fonce Falooda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 01:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A little side note.  When Seth was at Hanna Barbera, he got taken OFF drawing duty because he couldn&#039;t cut it.  Luckily, he can write, but I don&#039;t know if we should really value the critique of a guy who got transferred OUT of the art department.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little side note.  When Seth was at Hanna Barbera, he got taken OFF drawing duty because he couldn&#8217;t cut it.  Luckily, he can write, but I don&#8217;t know if we should really value the critique of a guy who got transferred OUT of the art department.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 22:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...those were stupid remarks on both Stern and MacFarlane&#039;s part.
Stern fails to realize that it&#039;s not the animation style that makes or breaks the show, it&#039;s the producer. If Stern thinks his project didn&#039;t look good in Flash, then what makes him think it would better traditionally? No wonder his show didn&#039;t make it...
And MacFarlane totally self-contradicted himself. He says Flash animation &quot;feels cold&quot;, and 2 years earlier, he made Up Late with Stewie and Brian in Flash! What&#039;s up with that? Also, there&#039;s a bit of irony in his statement: MacFarlane feels that Flash animation looks bad, yet Family Guy looks like it was made in Flash, and it&#039;s traditionally animated! If anything, THAT animation feels &quot;cold and sanatized&quot;.

Like I said before, it&#039;s not the animation method that makes or breaks the project, it&#039;s the producer. I like Flash, and it can be used to create beautifully animated projects like Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends, Superjail, Happy Tree Friends.
Stern and Macfarlane really DON&#039;T know what they&#039;re talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;those were stupid remarks on both Stern and MacFarlane&#8217;s part.<br />
Stern fails to realize that it&#8217;s not the animation style that makes or breaks the show, it&#8217;s the producer. If Stern thinks his project didn&#8217;t look good in Flash, then what makes him think it would better traditionally? No wonder his show didn&#8217;t make it&#8230;<br />
And MacFarlane totally self-contradicted himself. He says Flash animation &#8220;feels cold&#8221;, and 2 years earlier, he made Up Late with Stewie and Brian in Flash! What&#8217;s up with that? Also, there&#8217;s a bit of irony in his statement: MacFarlane feels that Flash animation looks bad, yet Family Guy looks like it was made in Flash, and it&#8217;s traditionally animated! If anything, THAT animation feels &#8220;cold and sanatized&#8221;.</p>
<p>Like I said before, it&#8217;s not the animation method that makes or breaks the project, it&#8217;s the producer. I like Flash, and it can be used to create beautifully animated projects like Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends, Superjail, Happy Tree Friends.<br />
Stern and Macfarlane really DON&#8217;T know what they&#8217;re talking about.</p>
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