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		<title>Cowles Shines On New TMBG Music Video</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[David Cowles and Liesje Kraai directed this animated music video for the Grammy-award winning They Might Be Giants&#8217; Here Comes Science. It&#8217;s titled Why Does the Sun Really Shine? (The Sun is a Miasma of Incandescent Plasma), and it finally puts the rumor to bed &#8211; the Sun is not made of cheese. Errr&#8230;. something [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://cowlesworld.blogspot.com/2009/11/tmbgs-why-does-sun-really-shine.html" target="blank">David Cowles</a> and <a href="http://www.liesjekraai.com/" target="blank">Liesje Kraai</a> directed this animated music video for the Grammy-award winning <em>They Might Be Giants&#8217;</em> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002FKZ4UO?tag=coldhardflash-20&#038;camp=213381&#038;creative=390973&#038;linkCode=as4&#038;creativeASIN=B002FKZ4UO&#038;adid=0T7AP1KJV5ZR4D7HXT4Z&#038;" target="blank"><em>Here Comes Science</em></a>. It&#8217;s titled <em>Why Does the Sun Really Shine? (The Sun is a Miasma of Incandescent Plasma)</em>, and it finally puts the rumor to bed &#8211; the Sun is not made of cheese.  Errr&#8230;. something like that. <a href="http://jeremygalante.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/put-it-to-the-test-on-cold-hard-flash/">Jeremy Galante</a> served as an animator on the project.</p>
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		<title>TMBG and Animator Campion Urge Kids to Go!</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Following up on his 2008 project for the alternative rock duo know as They Might Be Giants, Pascal Campion has created a new music video. Much like his One Dozen Monkeys piece, this music video also features a number of primates. It&#8217;s for the song Kids Go!, which promotes the newly-released TMBG book of the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following up on his <a href="http://coldhardflash.com/2008/02/campion-animates-monkeys-for-giants.html" >2008 project</a> for the alternative rock duo know as <a href="http://theymightbegiants.com/" target="blank">They Might Be Giants</a>, <a href="http://pascalcampion.com/" target="blank">Pascal Campion</a> has created a new music video.  Much like his <em>One Dozen Monkeys</em> piece, this music video also features a number of primates.  It&#8217;s for the song <em>Kids Go!</em>, which promotes the <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0743272757?tag=coldhardflash-20&#038;camp=213381&#038;creative=390973&#038;linkCode=as4&#038;creativeASIN=0743272757&#038;adid=10E7HRHV4TRYHFCR726Q&#038;" target="blank">newly-released TMBG book</a> of the same name (which was also illustrated by Campion).</p>
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		<title>TMBG Puts Animation To The Test (Again)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fresh from directors David Cowles and Jeremy Galante&#8217;s animation lab is a new, 8-bit-inspired, Flash-animated music video titled Put It to the Test. The track is on the Grammy-award winning They Might Be Giants&#8217; soon to be released album (September 22nd) Here Comes Science. It&#8217;s their third educational album, following 2005&#8242;s Here Come The ABCs [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fresh from directors <a href="http://www.youllputyoureyeout.com/cowles.html" target="blank">David Cowles</a> and <a href="http://www.jeremygalante.com/" target="blank">Jeremy Galante&#8217;s</a> animation lab is a new, 8-bit-inspired, Flash-animated music video titled <em>Put It to the Test</em>.  The track is on the Grammy-award winning <em>They Might Be Giants&#8217;</em> soon to be released album (September 22nd) <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002FKZ4UO?tag=coldhardflash-20&#038;camp=213381&#038;creative=390973&#038;linkCode=as4&#038;creativeASIN=B002FKZ4UO&#038;adid=0T7AP1KJV5ZR4D7HXT4Z&#038;" target="blank"><em>Here Comes Science</em></a>. It&#8217;s their third educational album, following 2005&#8242;s <em>Here Come The ABCs</em> and 2008&#8242;s <em>Here Come The 123s</em>.  The CD/DVD release is aimed at school kids K-5, but if you follow the bible to the letter, this album probably isn&#8217;t for you, as it&#8217;s not an accommodationist bow to creationism.  In fact, there&#8217;s a song titled <em>My Brother the Ape</em>, that will surely make some parents fall out their tree. Oh, science &#8211; you&#8217;re a scoundrel!</p>
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		<title>Sacks and Cowles Added to TMBG Team</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Adam Sacks and David Cowles recently co-directed this multi-lingual animated short I Can Add, from the They Might Be Giants album/DVD Here Come The 123s. [MEDIA=43] Sacks and Cowles had an A-list name of artists helping with the final animation, including Joe Apel, Pedro Delgado, Nelson Diaz, Jeff Fletcher, Aya Fukuda, Casey Leonard, Jonathan Renoni, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://adamsacks.blogspot.com/2008/03/they-might-be-giants.html" target="blank">Adam Sacks</a> and <a href="http://youllputyoureyeout.com/cowles.html" target="blank">David Cowles</a> recently co-directed this multi-lingual animated short <em>I Can Add</em>, from the <a href="http://theymightbegiants.com/" target="blank">They Might Be Giants</a> album/DVD <em>Here Come The 123s</em>.</p>
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<p>Sacks and Cowles had an A-list name of artists helping with the final animation, including <a href="http://optionjoe.blogspot.com/" target="blank">Joe Apel</a>, <a href="http://gogopedro.blogspot.com/" target="blank">Pedro Delgado</a>, <a href="http://tikirox.blogspot.com/" target="blank">Nelson Diaz</a>, Jeff Fletcher, Aya Fukuda, <a href="http://www.caseyleonard.blogspot.com/" target="blank">Casey Leonard</a>, Jonathan Renoni, <a href="http://rockitpack.blogspot.com/" target="blank">Thomas Sebasian Smolenski</a>, <a href="http://stuckystudio.blogspot.com/" target="blank">Joe Stucky</a> and <a href="http://www.joequinones.blogspot.com/" target="blank">Joe Quinones</a>.</p>
<p>Head over to Adam&#8217;s site to see <a href="http://www.adamsacks.com/add_animatic.mov" target="blank">the animatic</a> (Quicktime) from <em>I Can Add</em>.</p>
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		<title>Campion Animates Monkeys For Giants</title>
		<link>http://coldhardflash.com/2008/02/campion-animates-monkeys-for-giants.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pascal Campion, a one-man animating machine, has posted his collaboration with alternative rock duo know as They Might Be Giants. TMBG has created a pair of albums aimed at the preschool group &#8211; Here Come the ABCs and Here Come the 123s. Both have been turned into DVDs filled with puppetry and animation, and Campion [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.coldhardflash.com/images/pscal-dozen-monkeys.jpg" class=right border="0" height="163" hspace="8" vspace="4" width="250">Pascal Campion, a one-man animating machine, has posted his collaboration with alternative rock duo know as <a href="http://theymightbegiants.com/" target="blank">They Might Be Giants</a>.  TMBG has created a pair of albums aimed at the preschool group &#8211; <a href="http://disney.go.com/disneyrecords/Song-Albums/theymightbegiants/" target="blank"><em>Here Come the ABCs</em></a> and <a href="http://disneymusic.disney.go.com/albums/tmbg123s.html" target="blank"><em>Here Come the 123s</em></a>.  Both have been turned into DVDs filled with puppetry and animation, and Campion was called upon to bring the song <em>One Dozen Monkeys</em> to life.  The Flash animated music video is posted on <a href="http://pascalcampion.com/12mnk.swf" target="blank" class="broken_link">Pascal&#8217;s website</a>.</p>
<p>[<a href="http://pascalcampion.com/12mnk.swf" target="blank" class="broken_link">link</a>]</p>
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		<title>Homestar&#8217;s Show Runners, Part 1</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike and Matt Chapman, hailing from Decatur, Georgia, have built themselves the equivalent of animation dream jobs. They write, voice and animate for a living &#8211; and distribute exactly what they want, when they want, to millions of people. It&#8217;s an incredible achievement, and one that defies entertainment convention. Early on in their web-careers, the [...]]]></description>
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<p>Mike and Matt Chapman, hailing from Decatur, Georgia, have built themselves the equivalent of animation dream jobs.  They write, voice and animate for a living &#8211; and distribute exactly what they want, when they want, to millions of people. It&#8217;s an incredible achievement, and one that defies entertainment convention.</p>
<p>Early on in their web-careers, the Brothers Chaps, as Mike and Matt have come to be known, opted to go without advertising on their site.  But don&#8217;t worry &#8211; <a href="http://homestarrunner.com/" target="blank">homestarrunner.com</a> has given them complete financial independence, solely through <a href="http://homestarrunner.stores.yahoo.net/" target="blank">merchandise and DVD sales</a>. <img src="http://www.coldhardflash.com/images/hmstar03.jpg" class=right border="0" height="255" hspace="8" vspace="4" width="250" /> It&#8217;s allowed the brothers an unusual amount of creative control for a hit series. But instead of using this freedom to break all the rules, they went against the grain.  Since the mid-90&#8242;s, shock-value has driven millions of eyeballs to dozens of gross-out web shows and too-nuts-for-TV clips. Shirking convention, Homestar Runner and his pals are more G than some shows on <a href="http://www.nickjr.com/" target="blank">Nick Jr.</a>, but it surely hasn&#8217;t halted their success one bit.</p>
<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s because Mike, 33, and Matt, 29, the creators of such characters as Homestar Runner and Strong Bad, are family-oriented.  At the <a href="http://www.flashforwardconference.com/" target="blank">Flashforward Conference</a> this past February, <a href="http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Flashforward_Interview_-_10_Feb_2006" target="blank">they concede</a> that their &#8220;sister, dad and mom, and uh, inlaws&#8221; all get into the act; working in the Homestar Runner store and helping out around the office. Growing up, Mike and Matt&#8217;s parents, Don and Harriet Chapman, were reportedly always quite supportive of their creative endeavors, and ever since 1999, the brother&#8217;s family-friendly tastes have attracted a feverishly loyal following.</p>
<p>Now, let&#8217;s get to that following for a minute or two. <img src="http://www.coldhardflash.com/images/hmstar04.jpg" class=right border="0" height="208" hspace="8" vspace="4" width="250" /> Their website, homestarrunner.com, is visited by hundreds of thousands of people a day.  But the brothers supposedly don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s 100,000 a day or 200,000, nor do they really care.  You see, while other web companies and animators comb through the number of &#8216;uniques&#8217; they get a day, The Brothers Chaps are busy <em>being</em> unique.</p>
<p>However, that won&#8217;t stop the CHF research team (me), who spent tens of minutes scouring the web to come up with rough, unverified statistics. Drumroll, please&#8230;.according to web-stats giant <a href="http://alexa.com/" target="blank">Alexa.com</a>, Homestarrunner.com gets more traffic than starwars.com, pixar.com, southparkstudios.com, thesimpsons.com and handful of other high-profile animation websites.</p>
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<p></center>In fact, the <a href="http://www.hrwiki.org" target="blank">Homestar Runner Wiki</a>, the collaboratively-run, online encyclopedia of everything Homestar, gets almost as much traffic at thesimpsons.com (more on the HRWiki in a moment).</p>
<p>But for how many fans they have (the same fans that send in over 3,000 emails a day), The Brothers Chaps have somehow avoided being heralded with awards and honors. Mike and Matt would probably say that they could care less (and that&#8217;s probably true), but it&#8217;s symbolic of how independent they&#8217;ve remained.  They don&#8217;t have agents, managers or press buffers. They turn down TV execs holding deals as if they were pan-handlers. The Brothers Chaps are Hollywood 2.0 &#8211; blessed with a huge audience, creative freedom, popular merchandise, and an address far from Hollywood.</p>
<p>Speaking of merchandise &#8211; the entire Homestar Runner empire is operated entirely off of DVD and merchandise moolah, and with hysterical products like <a href="http://homestarrunner.stores.yahoo.net/horufi.html" target="blank">The Cheat Commando Figurines</a>, it&#8217;s easy to see why. <img src="http://www.coldhardflash.com/images/hmstar06.jpg" class=right border="0" height="256" hspace="8" vspace="4" width="250" />In fact, one of the more popular threads at the HRWiki Homestar Runner message board is titled &#8216;<a href="http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=179" target="blank">merchandise wishes</a>.&#8217;  And if you&#8217;re wondering what all of thee rabid fans are buying, The Brothers Chaps have shared that the <a href="http://homestarrunner.stores.yahoo.net/trbu.html" target="blank">Trogdor t-shirt</a> is their best selling item, but their many <a href="http://homestarrunner.stores.yahoo.net/stbademdvd.html" target="blank">DVD releases</a> (see the <a href="http://www.coldhardflash.com/2005/03/strongbad-dvd-is-strong-good.html" target="blank">CHF review</a>) can&#8217;t be far behind.</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s their secret?  Well, it&#8217;s not the software.  While Mike and Matt have always used Flash to make their many shorts, they famously don&#8217;t keep up with the latest versions, and their proud of it.  Perhaps the secret lies in their ability to loose themselves in the work.  With no sprawling production teams to hire, no Hollywood hobnobbing to suffer through and no agents to please, The Brothers Chaps can just focus on the funny. There&#8217;s a moment in the interview below, where Matt, the puppeteer in the family, explains his mental state during one of his live puppet recordings. He felt he &#8220;wasn&#8217;t even there.&#8221; This zen-like creative groove is just the thing Hollywood distractions so easily destroy.</p>
<p>Onward to the interview.  Before we get this rolling, I&#8217;d like to thank the gang over at the <a href="http://www.hrwiki.org" target="blank">Homestar Runner Wiki</a>, whose carefully assembled database helped me immensely in researching this article.</p>
<p>So without further adieu, here&#8217;s the phone interview I conducted back in the Winter of 2005 (Hey &#8211; I got busy!).  It&#8217;s a two-parter, starting with Mike.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">AARON SIMPSON: How do you guys decide who does what on the short.</span><br />
MIKE CHAPMAN: As far as writing goes, <img src="http://www.coldhardflash.com/images/hmstar01.jpg" class=right border="0" height="188" hspace="8" vspace="4" width="250" />we&#8217;ll talk about what ideas we have.  Usually the project timeline is very short, and we&#8217;ll quickly get the broad strokes down.  At that point we usually go take a stab at writing it separately.  We both know the main points of the story, and then we take a look at those, and decide that his part works here and my part here. Then Matt goes and records all the voices and when he&#8217;s doing that, I&#8217;m generally blocking the scenes. If I know there&#8217;s going to be a scene when Strong Bad is in space, I&#8217;ll go and get those background graphics together.  And then once the audio is done, we basically split up the scenes.  Matt is the better animator, so if there&#8217;s scenes that actually have some action going on, he&#8217;ll usually do those.  And if a scene just has characters talking, I&#8217;ll do those &#8211; like Strong Bad at his computer.  I mean I can animate okay, but Matt generally will spend more time on each shot, and his little flourishes will look a little better.  I&#8217;m more likely to have the characters just say their lines.</p>
<p>So after we finish ours scenes, we combine them, look at it, and make changes.  For instance, we&#8217;ll cut the line in half, add sound effects, or move a punch around.  The last few hours are making changes like that.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">AARON: Were you guys creatively collaborating earlier in your lives, before Homestar?</span><br />
MIKE: Definitely.  We grew up drawing, making comic books, <img src="http://www.coldhardflash.com/images/homestar-handpuppet.jpg" class=right border="0" height="182" hspace="8" vspace="4" width="250" />making Super 8 movies in the mid-80s, and then we worked with a video camera.  So, yes, we&#8217;ve collaborated pretty much all of our lives.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">AARON: I know how brothers can get competitive.  Does that ever get in the way of your creative process?</span><br />
MIKE: When we were growing up, I definitely used to beat the shit out of Matt. But from a creative standpoint, we don&#8217;t really ever get carried away.  And if there is a part where Matt or I don&#8217;t like the direction it&#8217;s going, we just say it &#8211; &#8220;no I think that sucks, that&#8217;s not funny. Let&#8217;s do it this way.&#8221;  And we usually agree on everything, which makes it easy.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">AARON: Have you ever considered passing some of the animation duties on to others?</span><br />
MIKE: No, I think if we were gonna do that, we would have done it by now.  Years ago, we&#8217;d always said that that animation would be the first thing to pass off.  For me, that&#8217;s the part I&#8217;m not as excited about.  Writing is great, I love illustrating &#8211; but animation is especially boring. But since we&#8217;ve been doing it this way, at this point it would be a few steps backwards to get someone else in here. If we were going to do some other project, and start from scratch, we might look at that, but at this point probably not.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">AARON: Is there an certain aspect of your work that&#8217;s currently getting the most attention?</span><br />
MIKE: For me, it&#8217;s stuff with a unique visual style. <a href="http://homestarrunner.stores.yahoo.net/stbademdvd.html" target="blank"><img src="http://www.coldhardflash.com/images/hmstar07.jpg" class=right border="0" height="199" hspace="8" vspace="4" width="250" /></a>Some people in the audience may notice that recently we&#8217;ve been paying more attention to the visual style.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">AARON: Between your games, puppet shorts and the DVDs &#8211; which takes the most time to make?</span><br />
MIKE: The DVD stuff definitely takes a lot of time.  Especially the first time &#8211; we hired a friend (<a href="http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Ryan_Sterritt" target="blank">Ryan Sterritt</a>) of ours to help make it. We basically had to learn from start to finish.  It worked out great, and now we have a really great DVD author on our team of only 3 people.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">AARON: What was the process like getting the shorts to DVD?</span><br />
MIKE: It was around 6 months into the process, and we were watching some test DVDs and they just weren&#8217;t cutting it.  They were pixely and the colors weren&#8217;t right, and at that point, we essentially started over.  There&#8217;s a program called <a href="http://www.flashants.com/root/swf2video.shtml" target="blank">SWF2Video</a> that really helped us finish, and then we color corrected in<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect?link_code=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;tag=coldhardflash-20&amp;creative=9325&amp;path=ASIN/B00005UMC6/qid=1117915336/sr=2-3/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_3" target="blank">After Effects</a>.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">AARON: And those DVDs are packed with Easter eggs&#8230;</span><br />
MIKE: Ya, it would have been impossible to hire a company to do all that. There are just so many little nuances and hidden Easter eggs in the DVD.  I&#8217;m sure Ryan (Sterritt &#8211; the DVD author) hates it but sometimes he&#8217;ll author the DVD in some way, and in the last week, we&#8217;ll say &#8220;you know what, this interface is going to change.&#8221; And if he wasn&#8217;t sitting right next to us, that would have been a pain in the ass.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">AARON: How did you guys first team up with the band <a href="http://www.tmbg.com/" target="blank">They Might Be Giants</a>?</span><br />
MIKE: Actually John Linnell emailed us.  <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?link_code=ur2&amp;tag=coldhardflash-20&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;location=%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2FB000068C97%2Fsr%3D8-1%2Fqid%3D1156626414%2Fref%3Dpd_bbs_1%3Fie%3DUTF8"><img src="http://www.coldhardflash.com/images/hmstar08.jpg" class=right border="0" height="250" hspace="8" vspace="4" width="250" /></a>Before that, a fan sent us a picture of them with John Flansburgh, and he was wearing a Homestar shirt.  And six months after that, John Linnell emailed and said he was a big fan and suggested we could maybe collaborate.  It didn&#8217;t hurt that I&#8217;d been a huge TMBG fan ever since college.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">AARON: Of the 2 of you, who is the puppeteer?</span><br />
MIKE: Matt, mostly. Primarily, because he does the voices, and most of it is ad-libbed.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">AARON: You&#8217;ve been lauded on the internet, radio and TV for having an internet show that&#8217;s relatively family-friendly. Have you ever gotten phone calls or emails complaining about the subject manner in your cartoons?</span><br />
MIKE: Ya, there&#8217;s always people.  We&#8217;ll get someone who misinterprets a short and emails us &#8220;what&#8217;s up with the gay bashing?&#8221;  So we&#8217;d send back an email, and it ends up being a 13 year old girl, and we explain the issue. And then she&#8217;ll email back saying &#8220;you know, you&#8217;re right.&#8221;  We&#8217;ve done that a few times, where people have sent us really angry emails. We&#8217;ll email back: &#8220;No wait &#8211; calm down. This is what we&#8217;re talking about.&#8221;</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">AARON: I&#8217;m sure you get approached by a fair amount of people wanting to partner up. Is there one offer that was more outrageous than the rest?</span><br />
MIKE: We get tons of cell phone offers &#8211; for ringtones <img src="http://www.coldhardflash.com/images/homestar-welcome.jpg" class=right border="0" height="181" hspace="8" vspace="4" width="250" />and mobile-episodes.  These people just don&#8217;t get it.  We&#8217;re scratching our heads &#8211; have you even looked at our site? We&#8217;d never do that. It&#8217;s the grossest thing I could think of &#8211; selling one minute <a href="http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.html" target="blank">Strong Bad Emails</a> for cell phones.  These people say &#8220;you&#8217;d be surprised, people would do it.&#8221;  And we&#8217;re thinking that&#8217;s not the point &#8211; we know people will do it.  We don&#8217;t want them to do it.</p>
<p>Oh, and there was one caller who wanted to give us $10,000 a month for banner ads or something. And you know someone had just tipped them off &#8211; &#8220;Hey, you should check out this Homestar site.&#8221; And they look at it for 5 minutes and call us, &#8220;We like your Strongman character.&#8221;</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">AARON: Have you ever had fans try to locate your office and try to swing by?</span><br />
MIKE: There have been a few people peek through the blinds.  We&#8217;re right next to a bowling alley and one day someone saw all the Homestar stuff in our office and knocked on the door. They asked us if we were big Homestar fans.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">AARON: How was your experience at <a href="http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Bobby_Blackwolf_Interview_-_5_Sep_2005" target="blank">Dragon*Con</a>?</span><br />
MIKE: We&#8217;ve never been to a &#8216;Con before.  <img src="http://www.coldhardflash.com/images/homestar-computer.jpg" class=right border="0" height="205" hspace="8" vspace="4" width="250" />We&#8217;d always shied away from those because of the fanboy aspect of them.  But it was alot of fun.  Far less creepy and far more fun that we&#8217;d imagined.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">AARON: Do you think any of your projects will move onto another platform? Maybe a broadband show or perhaps a video game.</span><br />
MIKE: I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s gonna happen.  The way we do things is very immediate &#8211; we make cartoons and put them up three days later.  There&#8217;s very few projects we do that are long term, but I&#8217;d say doing a video game, or something for Gameboy &#8211; that would be something that we&#8217;d be interested in doing. But we&#8217;ve never licensed our stuff out, and we&#8217;d have to do it in-house, and the timeline would have to be quick. But I really don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s gonna happen.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the end of the Brothers Chaps interview, Part 1.  Check back in a few days for <a href="http://www.coldhardflash.com/2006/10/homestars-show-runners-part-2.html">part 2</a>, featuring Mike&#8217;s brother Matt.</p>
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		<title>Crackers Over Pascal Campion</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pascal Campion&#8217;s name needs to ring through these digital halls. He&#8217;s extremely unheralded, and his body of work will keep you busy for your entire lunch break. Pascal lives in San Francisco, and he&#8217;s one of the few top-notch directors at Bent Image Lab. He&#8217;s done work for Ritz Crackers on several occasions, and one [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pascal Campion&#8217;s name needs to ring through these digital halls. He&#8217;s extremely unheralded, and his body of work will keep you busy for your entire lunch break.</p>
<p>Pascal lives in San Francisco, <img src="http://www.coldhardflash.com/images/pscal-cmpion02.jpg" class=right border="0" height="180" hspace="8" vspace="4" width="250" />and he&#8217;s one of the few top-notch directors at <a href="http://www.bentimagelab.com/" target="blank">Bent Image Lab</a>. He&#8217;s done work for Ritz Crackers on several occasions, and <a href="http://www.bentimagelab.com/video/ritz_party.htm" target="blank" class="broken_link">one of the spots</a> looked very familiar. I recalled seeing the Ritz &#8216;Party&#8217; spot over at Aaron Stewart&#8217;s page at Hornet Inc, and it&#8217;s fun to see <a href="http://www.hornetinc.com/viewmedia.php?id=855&amp;project=10" target="blank" class="broken_link">a different take</a> on the same ad.  Both seem worthy of getting the &#8216;green-light,&#8217; and I&#8217;m suspecting both were done in Flash. Pascal&#8217;s designs have subsequently become the look of the brand featured on <a href="http://www.nabiscoworld.com/ritz/" target="blank">the website</a>.</p>
<p>Pascal&#8217;s <a href="http://www.bentimagelab.com/video/PBS.htm" target="blank" class="broken_link">spot for PBS</a> is so fluid and engaging, <img src="http://www.coldhardflash.com/images/pscal-cmpion01.jpg" class=right border="0" height="174" hspace="8" vspace="4" width="250" />and his work with Chel White on the <a href="http://www.bentimagelab.com/video/landmarkmills_tanya.htm" target="blank" class="broken_link">St. Louis Mills mall spots</a> is snappy and fun.</p>
<p>But then you see the <a href="http://pascalcampion.com/" target="blank">sheer bulk</a> (click on &#8216;animation&#8217;) of his personal work, like his &#8216;<a href="http://pascalcampion.com/boss/tugging.swf" target="blank" class="broken_link">Boss Animations</a>,&#8217; and you realize this guy is passionate AND persistent. His video for the They Might Be Giants song <a href="http://pascalcampion.com/TMBG.swf" target="blank" class="broken_link">&#8216;Mr. Smalls&#8217;</a> is well worth a look, and his word-centric <a href="http://pascalcampion.com/catnip.swf" target="blank" class="broken_link">&#8216;Catnip&#8217; short</a> is award-worthy.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t miss Pascal&#8217;s <a href="http://pascalcampion.blogspot.com/" target="blank">blog</a>, which features heaps of his design work.</p>
<p>Thanks to Justin Balch for bringing Pascal into to my radar.</p>
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		<title>TMBG Bloodmobile Video</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[How have I managed to neglect Brooklyn&#8217;s &#8216;They Might Be Giants,&#8217; the one indie rock band to truly embrace the power of Flash animation? From the band&#8217;s quirky Flash homepage, to their collaboration with Homestar Runner, to their &#8216;Here Come the ABCs&#8217; Flash videos (Amazon link), this band is way ahead of the curve. But [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How have I managed to neglect Brooklyn&#8217;s &#8216;They Might Be Giants,&#8217; <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&#038;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FTHEY-MIGHT-BE-GIANTS-HERE%2Fdp%2FB0007D34ZS%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Ddvd%26qid%3D1204504909%26sr%3D8-3&#038;tag=coldhardflash-20&#038;linkCode=ur2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325"><img src="http://www.coldhardflash.com/images/tmbg-abcs.jpg" class=right border="0" height="350" hspace="8" vspace="4" width="250" /></a>the one indie rock band to truly embrace the power of Flash animation?  From the band&#8217;s quirky Flash <a href="http://www.tmbg.com" target="blank">homepage</a>, to their collaboration with <a href="http://www.homestarrunner.com/expfilm.html" target="blank">Homestar Runner</a>, to their &#8216;Here Come the ABCs&#8217; <a href="http://www.giantkid.net/tmbg_preview.html" target="blank" class="broken_link">Flash videos</a> (<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&#038;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FTHEY-MIGHT-BE-GIANTS-HERE%2Fdp%2FB0007D34ZS%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Ddvd%26qid%3D1204504909%26sr%3D8-3&#038;tag=coldhardflash-20&#038;linkCode=ur2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325">Amazon link</a>), this band is way ahead of the curve.  But wait &#8211; there&#8217;s more!  TMBG released a series of Flash-animated <a href="http://www.giantkid.net/front.html" target="blank" class="broken_link">interactive videos</a> to accompany their 2002 release &#8216;No!,&#8217; they released a <a href="http://www.giantkid.net/idlewild/idlewild.html" target="blank" class="broken_link">Flash-animated video</a> for a song titled &#8216;Idlewild&#8217; and you can still view their 2001 Flash-animated <a href="http://www.tmbg.com/ECARDS/proEcd.cgi?song=SANTA%20CLAUS&amp;album=EMUSIC&amp;swf=1" target="blank">holiday cards</a> online.</p>
<p>The latest TMBG Flash project is one the band had nothing to<img src="http://www.coldhardflash.com/images/tmbg-bloodmobile.jpg" class=right border="0" height="158" hspace="8" vspace="4" width="250" /> with.  It was animated by Dave Logan, a high school senior in Idaho Falls, Idaho.  I discovered his <a href="http://www.dave-logan.com/animation/bloodmobile/" target="blank" class="broken_link">6mb short</a> that animates against the TMBG song &#8216;The Bloodmobile&#8217; while browsing <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2005/03/24/infringing_teenagers.html">Boing Boing</a> last month.  It was produced specifically for an educational interactive experience called &#8216;The Giant Heart.&#8217;  There&#8217;s not a great deal of character animation in the short, but Dave&#8217;s 3D chops are on display throughout.  Cool stuff, Dave, and big ups to They Might Be Giants, who liked Dave&#8217;s video so much they linked to it from their site.</p>
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